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Mental Health & the Church Part 1 with Michelle Kixmiller and Gracey Lichtenstein

Welcome back to Consider Yourself Hugged! Click here to listen to Episode 125. OR click YouTube below to watch! (***Disclaimer: I provide these notes as a skeleton for the show - nothing fancy 😄)

I've said it a million times: It's time for a mental health revolution! And I mean that for the church too. Today, my dear friends Michelle Kixmiller (my former co-host) and Gracey Lichtenstein discuss some issues around the mental health conversation in the church today. Part 2 airs next week! Find the highlights, promised links, and bios on Michelle and Gracey below.


  • Is Just pray more good advice?

  • People with poor mental health do not just want to live in it.

  • So many people are suffering and afraid to talk.

  • I’ll feel bad and I am bad are two different things.

  • The importance of scriptural interpretation: Jesus on the cross my god why have dial forsaken me? The importance of interpretation. Loss of faith versus the duality of Christ. Matthew 27:46

  • About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,lemasabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).

  • People who say just pray more, may have not experienced a mental health crisis, and also surely think they are helping.

  • As Christians we want to believe we all want to help, but there is a difference between a testimony and real experience and knowledge of a topic. A testimony can be encouraging, but it doesn’t mean that is God‘s plan for you.

  • The issue of medication is individual.

  • Core to Christianity is the concept of hope.

Michelle Kixmiller, MSN, MAE, RN, APN, PMHNP-BC Michelle Kixmiller is a Board Certified

Psychiatric Mental Health Nurse Practitioner and Licensed Educator. She works with children and adults with mental health needs including depression, anxiety, bipolar disorder, post-traumatic stress disorder, ADHD, autism, schizophrenia, and obsessive compulsive disorder. Michelle served as a public school teacher and science department chair for over a decade when a family tragedy pulled her in a different direction. The death of her younger brother after a multiple year battle with depression and alcoholism led her to pursue a career in the mental health field. She went back to school to become a registered nurse graduating and gaining experience as a critical care nurse at a level 1 regional burn center prior to completing a graduate degree to become a mental health nurse practitioner. Her vision is holistic care through teamwork to create a more peaceful school environment for students and staff alike. No one should have to struggle alone. Michelle currently works full time for a non-profit community mental health center at an outpatient clinic and works PRN for an inpatient crisis stabilization unit. When not at work she loves spending time with family, traveling, watching movies (not scary ones), running (slowly), and Crossfit. Contact Michelle at Silver Lining Psychiatric Solutions, 615-378-7713 or

Grace Lichtenstein, MS is award-winning international speaker/trainer, coach, and a huge fan of all things nap-related. For the last 20 years, I have been working with individuals and corporate teams to improve their health, become more productive, and reduce their stress. Through my training in both Western and Eastern wellness philosophies (including an MS in Counseling Psychology), I truly has a comprehensive view of "what works". In addition, my diverse experience working with thousands of people in 49 states and in 2 foreign countries (ranging from native New Yorkers to Native Alaskans and from the FBI to the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops), has allowed my to pinpoint some of the universal characteristics of successful individuals and teams. Contact Gracey at

Through my signature online programs or with one of my live training topics, I have the tools to help almost every individual and team reach their true potential. In addition, I am skilled at providing an exceptional learning experience based on client needs whether it be live onsite, webinar, a customized learning management system, email tutorials, or individualized life or executive coaching.

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And until next time, Consider Yourself Hugged 😘🤗

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